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seanwes podcast 339: How to Make Money on the Side While Overlapping With a Day Job

339: How to Make Money on the Side While Overlapping With a Day Job

Wednesday, October 18, 2017 – 1 hour, 18 minutes

If you’re not yet making a full-time living with your business, that’s okay!

It can feel like having a day job is a step backwards, but really it’s the foundation of everything you’re building. It’s enabling you to build your business the way you want to build it.

I often see people waiting entirely too long to start bringing in revenue with their business. Even if you’re working a day job, you can still start making money on the side!

A lot of people wait to start making money with their business “until it can be sustainable”. They’re thinking of it more as a leap when instead they should think of it as a transition—an overlap.

How do you know when you’re ready to make money? Where should you start? What’s the easiest way? We’re talking about all of those things today.

338: Learning to Ask for Help

Wednesday, October 11, 2017 – 1 hour, 5 minutes

It can be hard to ask for help.

We feel bad, we feel like we’re inconveniencing someone, and often, we think we can find a way to do things ourselves.

It’s true: you can be a lone wolf and figure everything out on your own. But you miss out on the benefit of relationships. You miss out on giving someone else and opportunity to feel helpful and important.

Think about a time where a friend asked you to help. Helping feels good—but not only that, it’s required to build a relationship.

I used to think I was “wasting” my credits by asking for help. You know how you do a favor for someone and they “owe” you? Well, I was always hesitant to waste that “ask” until a friend explained that’s not how it works.

A relationship is built through giving and asking—over and over. You’re supposed to repeat it! It’s like exercising a muscle.

Like with exercise, you can’t start out with the heaviest weight. You have to start small and build up.

Does Increasing Your Reach Mean Compromising Quality?

337: Does Increasing Your Reach Mean Compromising Quality?

Wednesday, September 27, 2017 – 1 hour, 13 minutes

I’ve said in the past: I don’t want a trade paper version of Overlap to exist.

This past weekend, I was in Franklin, Tennessee speaking at Tribe Conference. While I was there, I met a smart lady who works in publishing.

She asked me about my goals for Overlap. I told her I wanted the message to spread as much as possible.

She said, “What if I told you your quality restrictions are working against your ability to accomplish your goal.”

I said, “I’m all ears. Push back.”

The punchline was that she strongly recommended I consider making a trade paper version of Overlap. It would be more economical, more accessible, and would facilitate the spread of Overlap.

Going into this episode, I haven’t made a final decision. You’ll get to hear me and Ben figure this one out on the air.

Why We Don't Listen Even Though We Want to Be Heard

336: Why We Don’t Listen Even Though We Want to Be Heard

Wednesday, September 20, 2017 – 1 hour, 32 minutes

Someone shared a tweet by John Mayer:

“I don’t wanna talk on the phone but I’ll trade voice notes with you for 90 minutes.”

I thought it was pretty funny. I know I catch myself sending tons of texts or voice notes before realizing I could have saved time by calling.

Obviously, the biggest reason for the rise in popularity of audio clips is asynchronous communication: people want everything (including conversations) on their own time.

But more interestingly, I think people also want to be heard. When you send a voice memo (as opposed to making a phone call), it forces the other person to actually listen to your message. They can’t interrupt a recording.

Most people aren’t listeners, they’re wait-to-talkers.

This begs the question: Why is it that we are such poor listeners even though we all so desperately want to be heard?

There may be something to slowing down the communication method and forcing each party to actually listen to each other.

How to Promote Your Product Launch (Lessons From Overlap)

335: How to Promote Your Product Launch (Lessons From Overlap)

Wednesday, September 13, 2017 – 1 hour, 28 minutes

You’ve spent so much time working on your product, and it’s finally time to launch.

Now, you want people to know about it, care about it, and buy it.

I’ve launched a lot of products and seen (as well as made) a lot of mistakes.

I’ve learned a lot and I’m applying everything I’ve learned to my latest launch.

Today, I want to take you behind the scenes of what I’m doing to promote my new book, Overlap, which launches on September 14th.

Behind the Scenes of the Overlap Documentary

334: Behind the Scenes of the Overlap Documentary

Wednesday, September 6, 2017 – 31 minutes

On September 7th, one week before the Overlap book launches, we’re releasing a new documentary!

“How to Write a Book” is a film Cory McCabe has been working on for over a year. This 22-minute documentary takes you behind the scenes of writing my first book.

In today’s mini sabbatical episode, I interview Cory about the making of the film. I suppose you could say it’s a behind the scenes look at a behind the scenes film!

We’ll be talking about Cory’s thought process, how he came up with the narrative, and why it almost didn’t happen.

Don't Quit Your Day Job

333: Don’t Quit Your Day Job

Wednesday, August 30, 2017 – 1 hour, 6 minutes

When I say “day job” people react like I said a four-letter word!

Getting a day job is not giving up on your dream.

A lot of people feel like having a day job is holding them back. They’re eager to take a leap.

But trying to monetize your passion too soon is what will kill your passion.

When you don’t protect your passion by first covering your bills with a day job, it will be crushed the first time it encounters resistance. You have to protect it.

Protecting comes in the form of a day job. You have to protect your ability to make objective decisions and your ability to say no to bad opportunities.

When you put yourself in a position where you have to make money from your passion in order to survive, you will be desperate. This desperation leads to compromise on many things—including your prices, professionalism or morals.

A day job that covers 100% of your bills is what prevents scarcity mindset. Build a solid foundation and then overlap. Overlap is a transition, not a leap.

Documenting vs. Creating

332: Documenting vs. Creating

Wednesday, August 23, 2017 – 1 hour, 2 minute

You just want to do the work, but then some business influencer says you have to build hype before it’s even ready.

That means creating content, right? Who has time to create content? It’s hard enough just to do the work!

A big mantra Gary Vaynerchuk has is “Document. Don’t create.”

What he means is, don’t get caught up in feeling the pressure of constantly having to create. Your story and your journey are both interesting—share them!

Share the process of getting where you want to go.

Share the journey as you work towards getting there.

I completely agree. And while Gary has made a video and written an article on this topic, I think it deserves an even more in-depth discussion to explore some examples of what documenting looks like.

We’re going to help reduce the overwhelm you feel when it comes to creating content.

The Right Advice at the Wrong Time Is the Wrong Advice

331: The Right Advice at the Wrong Time Is the Wrong Advice

Wednesday, August 16, 2017 – 53 minutes

We have information coming at us from all directions: social media, videos, podcasts, leaders, influencers, peers, mentors…

Much of the advice that’s shared is well-meaning.

But a lesson just learned by someone who is far ahead of you may not be relevant right now. It very well could be the right advice but for someone in a different position.

Getting the right advice at the wrong time is just as bad as getting the wrong advice.

How do you find advice that will help you where you are right now? How do you know the difference?

Sean McCabe
Sean McCabe
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Ben Toalson


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